“Pickin’ for Progress” is hosted by Joe Troop, the frontman of "latingrass" sensation Che Apalache. Through the summer and this fall, Joe will be rambling across the state of NC illuminating important progressive voices, sharing songs and having conversations. Episode 12 features the radiant Debra J. Hopkins. She has been in ministry for over forty years. She is also the founding pastor for Essentials for Life Ministry, a safe haven for the often ostracized LGBTQ community, and the founding director of There’s Still Hope, a nonprofit that provides transitional shelter to transgender adults and victims of domestic violence in Charlotte, North Carolina.